Gerald Butts testifies … Nothing !!! …

Butts said there was no co-ordinated effort inside the Prime Minister’s Office ( PMO ) to pressure Wilson-Raybould to overrule the director of public prosecutions and negotiate a deferred prosecution agreement ( DPA ) with SNC-Lavalin so it could avoid a trial over allegations it used bribery to secure government contracts in Libya.

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” Absolutely not ” he says … ” I really don’t have an opinion on what decision the current or former attorney general should make. I’m glad I’m not in their shoes.”

  • Under questioning from Conservative MP Lisa Raitt , Butts said the PMO was principally concerned about the fact that Wilson-Raybould only considered whether to pursue a deferred prosecution agreement ( DPA ) for 12 days.

What’s she supposed to do ? … Be the ‘ typical ‘ politician and embark on a ‘ study ‘ for 8 months ?! … Had it been me , I’d have ‘ wisely resisted ‘ my initial inclination to spend about 15 minutes on the phone , then tell him to bugger off !!! … But then  spend a reasonable amount of time revisiting a few key areas , and by the end of the week … THAT week ( 3 or 4 days at most ) … And ‘ firmly ‘ restated my reasoning for my decision … That there NO ‘ justification ‘ to use the newly ( DAMN HANDILY new ! ) legislation for a DPA … Why the Hell should it take 12 days , never mind how ever longer ButtsHead figures she should waste on it ?! …

  • According to Wilson-Raybould’s version of events last week , the director of public prosecutions decided on Sept. 4 not to pursue a DPA with SNC-Lavalin and Wilson-Raybould came to a similar conclusion on Sept. 16.

But many at the PMO , PCO and others repeatedly sought a change in JRW’s decision … They don’t deny that … They just continually say that there was nothing ‘ interfering ‘ about it …

  • Speaking of his childhood in Cape Breton , where coal mining was once the dominant industrial employment , Butts said he hoped Ottawa considered the matter of closing the then Crown-owned coal operations for more than 12 days. When Cape Breton Development Corporation ( DEVCO ) , the federal Crown corporation that ran the island’s mines , wound down its operations , thousands of people lost their jobs. ( The last underground mine in Cape Breton closed in 2001. )

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with this Committee’s concerns and speaks SQUAT to the question of ‘ pressure ‘ to alter the decision of the AG ( At that time ) …

  • Butts said Wilson-Raybould never told him she had made a final decision on this file by that date , which explains why lobbying efforts continued.

JWR said she did … Who’s full of shit ? …

  • ” My understanding is that nobody in the PMO or PCO [ Privy Council Office ] knew that at the time either. In fact , it is not to my knowledge how the law works. My understanding , which was informed by the public service and lawyers in the PMO , is that the attorney general’s power to direct the DPP extends until the time a verdict is rendered ” Butts said.

Two things here … First of all , this guy brags of his ‘ Public Service ‘ under , and for , 4 Prime Ministers … Part of his ‘ three pronged job ‘ is acting as a ‘ Deputy Prime Minister ‘ … He ( as is another job responsibility ) is involved with all Cabinets Ministers and decisions … And JWR testified quite strongly that she let the Prime Minister know her decision would stand and warned him about conflicting with the ‘ independence ‘ of the AG … 

Secondly , having watched Butts’ testimony live , I notice he quite often made mention of the fact that he ‘ wasn’t a lawyer ‘ , which in his mind aided him to be ‘ conspicuously ‘ vague on numerous points … Yet at times , he did profess an awful lot of ‘ understanding ‘ of the law when convenient … Who’s full of shit here ? … And just to demonstrate that he’s not as ‘ naive ‘ about ‘ legal stuff ‘ as he claims … Here’s yet another statement that warrants scrutiny …

  • ” My further understanding is that the attorney general is free to take advice on the decision until that point , and is obligated to bring fresh eyes to new evidence ” he said.

Here is where Butts was asked on several occasions , by different people , if he could tell them what the ‘ fresh evidence ‘ was , which of course , he couldn’t come up with any … Who’s full of shit here ? …

  • Butts said the government suggested outside legal advice because the legislation allowing for a DPA was so new ; it had only just been passed as part of omnibus budget legislation less than six months earlier , in spring 2018.

The ONLY reason this ShitLib was pressing for outside legal advice was because JWR was standing firm on her decision and since he couldn’t get her to change her mind … They were fishing for a chance to have better luck with someone else convincin’ her … Another ‘ lawyer ‘ perhaps … Save us the BULLSHIT about this ‘ new ‘ law … You guys scrambled that BULLSHIT together for this precise case !!! …

  • Butts said he believes Wilson-Raybould was ” obliged ” to consider new evidence in the case. The director of public prosecution herself reconsidered a DPA — when new evidence was presented by the company — on Oct. 9, he said.

There was no ‘ new evidence ‘ … SNC was just puttin’ forth want THEY want to get a deal so they can keep bidding ( and keep havin’ em handed to ’em ) over-priced government projects that the taxpayer pays way too much for … And since when do the crooks on trial start draftin’ up ‘ demands ‘ for how a trial should take place ?!!! …

  • Butts said the January cabinet shuffle had nothing to do with the SNC-Lavalin affair at all but rather was prompted by the unexpected , and swift , departure of former Nova Scotia minister Scott Brison. ” We had no idea he was even thinking about retirement ” he said.

Brison HAD informed them he was thinking about that when the next election came up , but would stick around til then … I wouldn’t be surprised if Brison was a part of this whole ploy anyway , by agreeing with Butts’ strategy to deal with the SNC case and ‘ stepping down ‘ earlier than had originally planned …

  • ” Let me say at the outset , categorically , the January cabinet shuffle had absolutely nothing to do with the SNC-Lavalin. In fact , I spent at least as much time working with colleagues to prevent the shuffle from happening as I did in preparing my advice for it ” Butts said.

Hmmmmm … Let’s see … Despite all the constant badgering , Jody just isn’t bein’ a sport … Let’s just kick her out and will just say it’s a ‘ shuffle ‘ !!! … Who’s full of shit here ? …

  • Butts said Philpott then told the prime minister that she worried Wilson-Raybould might wonder if her move was connected to the ” DPA issue “. Trudeau assured her that move was not at all related to the DPA or SNC-Lavalin , but rather to Brison’s departure and the need for an experienced minister to take over his Treasury Board portfolio.

Like I said … I watched this live … The needle on the Bullshite-O-Meter was bent into a semi circle in the red zone many , many times …

 

 

Source: Gerald Butts testifies at Commons justice committee: key updates | CBC News

Even some Lib-Media folks are realizing this don’t cut it …

Junior is imploding so badly that he seems to have finally arrived at that line where  , at least SOME ‘ liberals in the media are catching on ! …

Neil MacDonald – CBC News opines ;

If you’re looking for some instructive reading , go look up an aggregation of utterances by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Some are already famous for their loopiness : budgets balance themselves , the government shouldn’t call honour killings barbaric , we need to rethink the definitions of space and time , we should say ” peoplekind ” instead of ” mankind ” ( he may actually have been making fun of himself with that one ).

Most , though , are just syrupy , unmemorable banalities about values and optimism and respect and caring for one another.

Like this masterpiece of tautology the day he was sworn in as prime minister : ” The diversity that makes this country so strong is a diversity of views that will carry us forward “…

Trudeau’s happy blather was digestible enough at first , particularly after nearly a decade of Stephen Harper. Like tapioca after heartburn. But as it kept coming , picked up and amplified by his cabinet ministers , it began grating on the nerves , the way retail Christmas-carol Muzak does by late November.

Eventually , it became clear that our prime minister didn’t really have much else to say. He relies more heavily on talking points than any Canadian leader in my memory ( 40-plus years ) , his answers swollen with extraneous words and catchphrases crafted by his messaging experts …

Neil goes on talking about the stupid statements that Junior has spit out over the years , like the ” the budget with balance itself ” nonsense …

… During a CTV interview he was probably most candid.

” At one point ” he told the program W5 ” people are going to have to realize that maybe I know what I’m doing “…

Or not. On the evidence of the past few weeks , I’m thinking not.

Click the link below for the whole , interesting viewpoint from Neil … Again , from CBC no less !!! …

 

Source: Trudeau’s verbal porridge and serene smile have carried him along. Until now: Neil Macdonald | CBC News

6:35 A.M. Ya have to PAY ATTENTION ! …

Unfortunately , the mass majority of voters don’t engage in all this information , or follow these types of conflicts close enough to make rational decisions …

They tend to quickly sum up a point of view , usually forged for them by their preferred political ‘ spin doctor ‘ ( Media outlet ) and get sucked into the ‘ sell ‘…

Consider   , for a moment , comments made by the Montreal-based Attorney General David Lametti , who replaced Wilson-Raybould after she wouldn’t play nice on SNC.

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In an interview on Sunday , Lametti said that the matter of securing a DPA … Which would allow the company to avoid a criminal trial in connection with allegations that it bribed Muammar Gadaffi’s son for projects in Libya … ” No decision is ever final ”…

Trudeau himself echoed Lametti’s hand-waving in Prince Edward Island on Monday.

“ We are always going to stand up for good jobs , create good jobs and defend Canadians’ interests ” Trudeau blah blahhed , according to the Chronicle Herald.

“ This matter is to be determined by the attorney general. That is what I said to the former attorney general ( But HER decision wasn’t the one that I wanted , so I canned her and put a guy from KBec in her place … ) , and that’s something the current attorney general knows full well ” …

So , in other words … He should be painfully affair of his predecessor’s fate and if he wants to keep his cushy job , he should KNOW how to approach this and do what I want , and NOT what a competent Attorney General working strictly within actual LAW would do ! …

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Now this is where Wernick can say ” See … The Attorney General is making the decision , not the Prime Minister … Democracy is saved !!! “…

Source: The SNC affair is now an existential threat to the Trudeau government

5:34 A.M. Trudeau expected to ‘ All Of A Sudden ‘change his tone …

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected to change his tone on the SNC-Lavalin controversy after an afternoon huddled with his closest advisers , as the Liberal government struggles to confront the political crisis engulfing it just months ahead of the election and moves into damage-control mode.

A senior government source said a key part of those discussions was about the possible need for a change in tone. A new strategy is expected to come out of the meetings , one in which the prime minister is expected to strike a more apologetic tone and demonstrate contrition , likely in the form of a statement to Canadians.

But … OF COURSE !!! …

The statement would not acknowledge any wrongdoing  ( Again , of course not ! ) , the source says , but is expected to address the allegations of inappropriate pressure in a more apologetic way and express contrition over how his senior staff and officials allegedly conducted themselves.

Former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould has alleged that the prime minister , his senior staff and government officials put inappropriate pressure on her to intervene in the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin , citing jobs and a looming election.

A senior source said Trudeau will not make any statement in advance of the testimony of his former principal secretary and close personal adviser Gerald Butts.

Again … Waiting to see if his best bud Gerry can get him off the hook …

I’m waiting as well … Coverage on CBC begins at 10:00 this morning …

Source: Trudeau expected to change his tone on SNC-Lavalin affair in a statement in coming days – National | Globalnews.ca